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BYOB: About Anything But The Oscars


31 Responses to “BYOB: About Anything But The Oscars”

  1. Hallick says:

    It would have been nice to have had a BYOB about the thing we’re not supposed to talk about in this BYOB first…

  2. Hallick says:

    Okay then…why not shut The Hot Blog down? It’s more than half abandoned at this point, there are only a few of us that still post anything here, you didn’t even link your post-Oscar column here so I had to stumble into it over at Movie City News, you don’t write so much nowadays as imbed videos anyways, so what’s the point of having The Hot Blog? You do more writing on your Twitter feed.

    How about a BYOB “vote on the future of this blog/say goodbye to this blog”? Not that any of us can vote you back into writing like you used to at the Hot Button site, but at least you’ll get some kind of consensus.

  3. leahnz says:

    i hate seeing people post something and twist in the wind all by themselves so i’ll add:

    i think it’s a given by now that DP has lost interest in this ‘format’ and it seems like that ship has sailed, but i guess for selfish reasons i’d hate to see the hotblog just shut up shop because it’s the general movie blog i read/comment on and the thought of trying to acclimate to the other movie blogs freaks me out, i guess it’s like an old shoe for better or worse…

    DP if you read this, have you ever considered ordaining an ‘assistant’ to just post interesting/provocative subjects from the current movieshere, giving people who come here something to talk about? i guess that sounds kind of tinpot and it’s a departure from the current format, but at least it would keep the blog alive and give your little family of misfits somewhere to discuss stuff (and hopefully attract a wider range of commenters again), and you could then post your points of interest as you see fit… just a thought anyway

  4. Hallick says:

    So that’s one vote for keeping the blog alive and one vote for hiring an appealing white girl who likes getting handsy.

  5. christian says:

    DP’s protege didn’t quite work out as we see.

  6. Joe Leydon says:

    Leah: Why don’t you and I tag team as assistants? In addition to keeping the conversation going, we could generate some erotic tension in our spirited give and take. And since there’s an entire ocean separating us, you’d never have to worry about me actually, you know, showing up at your front door.

  7. Ray Pride says:

    Lotsa fodder on that front page.

  8. EtGuild2 says:

    What are the odds that the sex scene I just saw in “300 Part 2″ is more erotic than anything from NYMPHOMANIAC?

    Actually, that sylized/animated scene is more memorable than anything from PEABODY & SHERMAN, sadly. Dreamworks has morphed from a slightly worse/more conventional Pixar to a slightly better/less conventional Blue Sky. Actually, this is tracking below Blue Sky’s last eminently forgettable effort, EPIC, and will undoubtedly be crushed by RIO 2.

  9. Hallick says:

    “Actually, that sylized/animated scene is more memorable than anything from PEABODY & SHERMAN, sadly.”

    It’s asking a bit much of a children’s film to go head to head on that level, don’t you think?

  10. Breedlove says:

    Yeah, I also chuckled at that – nothing but obsessive Oscar coverage for months and months, then post a big “non-Oscar talk BYOB” like 2 days after the Oscars? Haha. WTF? There was barely anywhere to discuss them in the first place – like 10 comments after that coffee post.

    I’ve never watched a DP/30 and don’t see how the stuff he writes for twitter is 1/100th as interesting or fun to read as some of those long-form columns he used to do about this or that, or even his actual movie reviews, but to each his own. I’ve been winding down coming here and I imagine I’ll stop entirely soon but I’ll always follow Dave whatever he’s up to to some extent.

    Random aside: NOAH’S ARK is an iconic and cool-sounding title for a movie. The title NOAH is super boring, could be an Alexander Payne character piece about an accountant from Stamford.

  11. Mike says:

    I’ve occasionally followed Dave’s Twitter feed and it’s not particularly geared to an outside audience, anyway. Half of it are references to things only industry and media insiders have a clue about, and the other stuff is so short that it carries no punch. Twitter just doesn’t work as a media tool other than to tweet out quick newsbites.

  12. arisp says:

    Let’s not forget that MCN is the best curated film website out there, with the widest range of topics/links. No one is forcing any of you to be here.

  13. Hallick says:

    “Random aside: NOAH’S ARK is an iconic and cool-sounding title for a movie. The title NOAH is super boring, could be an Alexander Payne character piece about an accountant from Stamford.”

    The title NOAH sounds like something I’d see on a DVD in the 99 cent bin at a BigLots or slumping over on a shelf at Goodwill. NOAH’s ARK is a better title, THE ARK is a better title, AFTER ME THE DELUGE is a better title. Is there a latin phrase anything like “Reductio ad (meaninglessness)”?

  14. Hallick says:

    “Let’s not forget that MCN is the best curated film website out there, with the widest range of topics/links. No one is forcing any of you to be here.”

    Well to your first point, no one here is criticising or even discussing MCN. There was no need for you to defend it in this instance.

    To your second point, you missed my point. Those of us, the few remaining of us, who come here to discuss and debate and engage with what David blogs are loyal and regular visitors; and we’re increasingly frustrated by what seems to have become now the shadow of a husk of what the blog used to be when it captured us.

    And like Breedlove and I have noted, it’s a bit irksome to come here after one of the biggest talking point events in movies and get “BYOB: About Anything But The Oscars” from a guy who couldn’t stop micro-vivisecting everything about the Oscars for the last five months. And then he goes and puts up a post-Oscars piece on MCN without nary a mention or reposting of it here.

    This blog is David’s blog, and it’s his to do with whatever he feels like doing with it. But as current attendance levels seem to show, he’s blogging to attrition.

  15. hcat says:

    With how colon happy Paramount is I’m suprised its not Noah: The Flood.

    Love the disclaimer they are putting in front of it that it is an interpretation and not a literal translation, hope they do the same with Hercules later this year.

  16. EtGuild2 says:

    “It’s asking a bit much of a children’s film to go head to head on that level, don’t you think?”

    Hahaha, I was thinking more on the lines of “Dragon’s” flying scenes, Panda’s fighting scenes or “Madagascar’s” wig buffoonery, but at this point, maybe that’s the direction to go in;)

    So much good stuff in the next month that I haven’t had the chance to see…”Budapest Hotel,” “Under the Skin,” “Enemy,” “Nymphomaniac,” “Bad Words,” “The Raid: 2″ and that doesn’t count stuff like “Muppets,” “Divergent” and “Noah.” Usually late August/early September is like this….a ton of stuff that studios figure isn’t quite Oscar-worthy, but that I end of liking better much of the time. It’s like Christmas coming twice this year.

  17. hcat says:

    What do you think Disney is counting on Muppets to do? I can’t turn around without seeing them plastered on something, I don’t think the marketing for Iron Man 3 was this omnipresent.

  18. movieman says:

    “Budapest Hotel” should have no trouble doing $100,000+ per-screen this weekend in “limited release.”
    Not sure whether its final domestic cume will be in the “Tenenbaums”/”Moonrise” ballpark or closer to a typical Wes ($20-million and change).
    I’d love for “Hotel” to gross a billion dollars worldwide, but we all know that ain’t gonna happen.

  19. EtGuild2 says:

    Yeah the marketing is over the top… “Muppets” seems like it has a pretty low ceiling….$100 million domestic, $200 million worldwide seems like the high point, and that’s if they knock it out of the park again critically since Muppets fans I would think are more inclined to read reviews after stuff like “Muppets in Space.”

    Can never tell with Wes Anderson re: grosses. $25 million seems a given, but he’s never had a March release so who knows? Summer worked out well.

  20. leahnz says:

    ha joe (i wasn’t hinting for the ‘assistant’ role or anything fwiw, just general spitballing – i’m like a jamaican from that ‘in living color’ skit with five jobs at the moment), but we’d probably do a pretty kickass blog i imagine, not that i know the first thing about doing a blog

  21. movieman says:

    “…but he’s never had a March release”

    You’re forgetting “Bottle Rocket,” Et.
    That was a March release 18 years ago.
    Of course, that was before Wes Anderson became “Wes Anderson” and developed a fervent fan base through home video.
    Sony did such a piss poor job of “releasing” “BR” you’d swear they didn’t want anybody to see it.
    Opening (pretty much) the same day as “Fargo” didn’t help matters.

  22. Joe Leydon says:

    Hallick: “Blogging to attrition,” eh? I like that. Better still, I’ll likely steal that.

  23. Hcat says:

    From what I recall Sony was not thrilled about releasing bottle rocket and only did so because James brooks championed it.

  24. movieman says:

    Not coincidentally, Wes has never made another movie for Sony.

  25. cadavra says:

    Though in fairness, Sony doesn’t go for his kind of movie anyway. (Sony Classics, maybe.)

  26. SamLowry says:

    So now it’s racist to say that Little Orphan Annie’s supposed to have curly red hair. What does it mean, then, when I dismissed MAN OF STEEL entirely when I found out Lois didn’t have black hair?

  27. movieman says:

    ’tis true, Cad.
    He’s mostly worked for boutique labels like Searchlight and (the former) Focus.
    Weird that a corporate behemoth like Disney once bankrolled him, though.

  28. SamLowry says:

    Oh my, the article on the front page attacking the racists who said Annie can’t be black links to one of their own articles arguing that Justin Timberlake is too young to be Daddy Warbucks. How ageist! Then the writer goes on to say “doesn’t Daddy Warbucks have a big bald head?”

    I think I just overheard the pot making a slur about the kettle.

  29. Hallick says:

    Not just one of their own articles, but an article written by the EXACT SAME WRITER.

    Gee I dunno what everybody’s tizzy is with skin color. The project pretty much lost all of my support when they decided to go with something else black: pupils.

  30. SamLowry says:

    I’m just wondering what this’ll do to all those girls who were forced over the years to wear the fright wig after being told that without the wig no one will know you’re Annie.

    And if you don’t have curly red hair then you’re a nameless disposable background character.

    It brings to mind a kerfuffle in the Batman letters column many years back when someone complained that no two artists drew Wayne Manor the same way. I believe it was comics great Howard Chaykin who replied “Wayne Manor? How about Bruce Wayne? Nobody draws him the same, either.” And yet all the artists still stuck within certain parameters; no one ever said “Screw it, this month I’m making him Asian.”

  31. Foamy Squirrel says:

    He could be asian under the mask. Who knows?

    Honestly, if by some miracle you found someone who had never heard of batman and showed them Adam West vs. Christian Bale, they’d have a hard time believing it’s supposed to be the same character.

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