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1. Paul Doro says:

   March 6, 2013 at 11:38 am

   What’s the word on Dead Man Down? I want to see it but can’t find a single review. Bad sign?
2. Lex says:

   March 6, 2013 at 1:05 pm

   Who needs reviews, just go see it. It looks awesome. And every geek banging on about the compositional genius of STOKER should be just as high for DEAD MAN DOWN based on that incredible trailer with AWESOME ANGLES and that Pink Floyd cover, all shall bow.
3. Paul Doro says:

   March 6, 2013 at 1:10 pm

   It does look awesome and I’ll see it as soon as I can. Just curious as to whether or not anyone has seen it or if it’s not being screened at all.
4. Don R. Lewis says:

   March 6, 2013 at 1:20 pm

   The last film I produced, HOLY GHOST PEOPLE, is premiering Sunday at SXSW! I’m excited, nervous, curious about how it’ll go over….terrified. All the good stuff. If any Hot Blog regulars are attending, please say hi. I will buy you a beer (Lone Star tallboys only, for you guys!

   Also, check out our trailer.
5. etguild2 says:

   March 6, 2013 at 2:19 pm

   Evangelical Snake Handlers? I’m in.
6. scooterzz says:

   March 6, 2013 at 3:32 pm

   ‘dead man down’ was screened and a junket held in l.a…. i thought it was just okay but with really good performances from all (also one spectacularly huge set piece)….
   fwiw– just saw ‘spring breakers’ and actually thought of lex during the screening…abundant white girls, tits and feet….
7. Lex says:

   March 6, 2013 at 3:34 pm

   YES.
8. christian says:

   March 6, 2013 at 3:48 pm

   WHITE POWER.
9. etguild2 says:

   March 6, 2013 at 4:55 pm

   Huh? Not to quibble but since when did Selena Gomez and Vanessa Hudgens become white?

   The less attractive girls, including Korine’s daughter, are white though.
10. arisp says:

    March 6, 2013 at 5:17 pm

    what the hell is Dead Man Down. havent’ heard of it, and 98% of moviegoers haven’t either. Another movie being dumped in doldrums of winter. Lex – save your money – if you saw only 5-7 movies a year (basically the only good films) you could have quit your soulless job by now and had enough money to live while writing.

    but that’s a whole other story.
11. YancySkancy says:

    March 6, 2013 at 5:20 pm

    etguild2: Rachel Korine is 26 yrs old and Harmony Korine’s wife, not daughter.
12. etguild2 says:

    March 6, 2013 at 5:49 pm

    Hah! I should have known…
13. Paul Doro says:

    March 6, 2013 at 6:44 pm

    Yes because if 98% of moviegoers haven’t heard of a movie it must be without value and not worth seeing.
14. arisp says:

    March 6, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    is Dead Man Down worth seeing? is it any good? I’d bet my life that the answer is no. please let me know if i’m wrong PAUL DORO.
15. sanj says:

    March 6, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    \watched the dead man down trailer – trailer pretty much tells the entire movie – hint – somebody dies.
    same thing happens with snitch .. movie trailers should be cut down a bit .

    the burt wonderstone movie looks like silly fun … opens in a few weeks and no early reviews ? its also got 6 writers ..11 producers …ain’t none of the actors going to rush out and give a dp30 out of this .. maybe people wold give this a chance if that oz movie wasn’t around .

    Olympus Has Fallen – this could be good – also Gerard Butler needs a hit right now – also the computer graphics people need a dp30 … everybody on the cast is too famous for a dp30 .. maybe the director should drop by
    for a dp30.
16. Joe Leydon says:

    March 6, 2013 at 8:16 pm

    Arisp: Does this mean that if the movie is any good, you’ll off yourself? Isn’t that rather, well, extreme? And how will we decide whether it’s good or not? If it gets above 60 percent on Rotten Tomatoes, does that mean you jump off the bridge?
17. berg says:

    March 6, 2013 at 9:25 pm

    DMD has Isabelle Huppert in a co-star role, and while I thought OZ was a snore I have to say there are actually well thought out 3D shots in the film … I mean at one point the natives are actually throwing spears at the camera POV
18. scooterzz says:

    March 6, 2013 at 10:16 pm

    huppert is a complete scene stealer as rapace’s flirty/slutty mom in ‘dead man down’…just one of several nice turns in the film…
19. etguild2 says:

    March 7, 2013 at 4:05 am

    Yeah I haven’t seen a single ad for BURT WONDERSTONE 8 days before release. Seriously, what the hell is Warner Bros. doing lately? They haven’t even released a trailer for HANGOVER III, despite opening against FAST 6 pre-Memorial Day
20. Paul Doro says:

    March 7, 2013 at 6:35 am

    I’d say Dead Man Down is worth seeing based on the cast and trailer. Hard to say if it’s any good since I haven’t seen it, but isn’t that one of the reasons why we see movies, to find that out? Once I have a chance to check it out, I’ll be sure to let you know ARISP.

    I caught a TV spot for Wonderstone the other night. It doesn’t look very good, more like something to watch on HBO in November.
21. storymark says:

    March 7, 2013 at 9:23 am

    Ive seen a bunch of Wonderstone ads on Comedy Central – but no where else.
22. anghus says:

    March 7, 2013 at 1:02 pm

    Lots of Wonderstone ads on ESPN and Comedy Central. They are horribly unfunny. Several of the ads seem like they try to cut around any shot of Steve Buscemi. Lots of shots of Jim Carrey and Carrell yelling. It looks just awful.
23. Ray Pride says:

    March 7, 2013 at 1:18 pm

    The trailer elicited low grumbles and a couple of boos at a recent Chicago press screening.
24. Triple Option says:

    March 7, 2013 at 2:09 pm

    Sorry to hear Oz was no good. Not surprised but still bummed. I do really like Isabelle Huppert so I may have to check out Dead Man, though I know nothing about it.

    Who was ragging on foreign directors coming here and laying an egg? I’ve seen more than a few Chan-wook Park movies, enjoyed some far more than others but none that I felt wasted my time or disappointed…until Stoker!

    There’s missing the mark and then there’s Bob Ucker’s call in Major League “juuuust a bit outside” nowhere near the batter’s box. Slow, tension quickly dies, no real themes that are generally primary in Chan-wook’s films. Wasted elements. Just a total head scratcher all around.
25. Lex says:

    March 7, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    What? It had the same incesty, Freudian, violence-passed-thru generations themes as at least OLDBOY… If anything, it seemed like WRITER WENTWORTH MILLER FROM THE MARIAH CAREY IT’S LIKE THAT VIDEO AND PRISON BREAK, you know, that master scribe, was trying WAY TOO HARD to make it as Oldboy-y as possible.

    But really main issue with it is it takes place in some chintzy backroads locale instead of a BIG CITY.
26. Lex says:

    March 7, 2013 at 2:19 pm

    And honestly, the INVERSE of what Triple just said is what I’ve always held:

    Film geeks find their little “cult” foreign directors, and blow them up and find all this genius in their movies when they star foreign actors they don’t really know, because it builds it up to this mythic otherworldly status. Then they come here and they put Van Damme or Nicole Kidman or Andie McDowell in their movies, and your U.S. film geek eyes are more laser-focused on nitpicking, on seeing the seams showing, quick to throw your “guy” under the bus because he “sold out,” like some MTV kid giving up on his band for making a video in the ’80s.

    I say this ALL THE TIME, but if LADY VENGEANCE or HARD BOILED or take your pick had been the EXACT SAME MOVIE, only filmed here first with like Bruce Willis or Julia Roberts and directed by Rob Cohen, it’d be dismissed out of hand.

    Geeks have this self-hating lefty smart-ass detached gullibility for thinking that anything “foreign” is automatically superior or of more integrity because they’re so cynical about the “Hollywood system.” STOKER’S probably about as good as any of the guy’s other movies, it just has white people in it so your assumption is it’s all bullshit.
27. jesse says:

    March 7, 2013 at 3:42 pm

    I’d even say Stoker is better than a lot of the Park movies I’ve seen. I liked Old Boy well enough, but felt no real emotional currents in it — it was like reading a Greek tragedy, interesting on a story and technical level but not really deeply felt. Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance is nicely composed but downright insert. I haven’t seen Lady Vengeance, but I’ve heard it’s somewhere between the two.

    I liked Thirst a lot — Thirst and Stoker really feel more alive and less sadistic than the Vengeance Trilogy movies I’ve seen. Maybe, in the case of Stoker, I find Park’s technique more effective when it has a little more of a Hitchcockian edge than a grand-tragedy-by-way-of-comic-book edge (and I like comic books!).

    But I might be indulging in the semi-racist opposite of what Lex is talking about: it’s easier for me to slide right into a movie if I already like the actors or it’s in a language I understand. It just is, and watching countless foreign-language films hasn’t made it just as easy as watching something in English. Not that I avoid foreign-language films or don’t think they’re worthwhile — I just think there ARE language and cultural barriers there that, yeah, some film geeks probably try to over-compensate for by fetishizing the other-ness of that work.
28. cadavra says:

    March 7, 2013 at 10:54 pm

    Huppert and Rapace together. My fantasy. Lex’s nightmare.
29. sanj says:

    March 8, 2013 at 12:55 am

    watched Hitchcock (2012) – this is a straight up tv movie that belongs on hbo .

    my problem with this was nobody took it far enough into crazyland .

    – my fat buddy Hitchock wasn’t creepy enough to LexG levels

    - evil movie head guy wasn’t Kevin Spacey yelling at Hitchock

    - his wife was boring

    - but #1 missed opp is when you have Biel and ScarJo in the same scene and its so boring

    - this old scary stuff that fat Hitchcock did just doesn’t work for today…the people want paranormal activity type scares …

    - DP knows every director out there so DP should really post a dp30 with my fat buddy Hitchcock so i know the real story…check the archives DP – you probably forgot you met him way back …
30. Triple Option says:

    March 8, 2013 at 1:49 am

    I’m not sure if I disagree w/what you’re saying Lex, other than I didn’t like Stoker. Maybe it tried to Oldboy but it gravely missed something, purpose! Not saying everything needs a motivator. Sometimes films make the mistake of trying to explain in backstory why certain characters are bad or do rotten things, often times it’s overdone or over simplified and generally not needed. It’s not that I found anything gratuitous but say in Oldboy we see what causes a character’s metamorphosis. Where’s the development here?

    I guess you could call the air of incest a theme but what I was referring to in Chan-wook’s previous films was almost a thesis. What was being said about incest in this film? Or family bonds? Or the nature of aggression? Sexuality? Again, not saying every movie has to have that but Stoker had so little going I was shocked.

    I have wondered in the past if in watching some foreign films if I’m not putting too much in implied symbolism that a person native to that film’s origin would dismiss offhand. Here, there’s no subtly or layers whatsoever. What is ice cream supposed to symbolize? What about a spider? A swing? Backstory here, such as hunting, is only used as a convenient way to introduce elements down the road but never shape how characters function. Some potential elements there to be explored were glossed over.

    It looked pretty, I’ll give it that. I liked the lead but it kinda fell into a one note performance. When there was an interesting and potentially transitional moment (hint: shower) because so little has happened before it can’t be certain that the character post event would’ve behaved any differently than the one pre-event. His movie Thirst dealt heavily with internal conflict. What’s the lead’s dilemma here?

    Maybe I had unreasonable expectations but I never would’ve imagined the film would just sit there. Not sure to blame. Script did seem a little light in the butt. I hate to say that cuz it’s every lay man’s response to a film they don’t like, even if it’s really not the problem. I didn’t find it compelling. The tension died like a severed kite string. Characters in routine situations that seem old hat even before they play out. If he had just made a mindless slasher film I think I would’ve been more forgiving.
31. Lex says:

    March 8, 2013 at 2:03 am

    Ah, fair enough… Actually I’m not a rabid fan of it, agree with a lot the flaws you found; Usually style is enough to carry me through, plus HOTNESS, ie Mia Wasikowska one of the world’s 20 most perfect women. But it’s definitely a stylistic exercise; I’m not very well versed on Chan-wook’s other movies, just OLDBOY… which is great, but I’m not so sure that’s not a similar exercise where the “thematic” elements are lip service or come hand-in-hand with the genre. Nothing wrong with that…. I’d argue a lot of Tarantino and DePalma “recurring thematics” are just things that would pop up in any old movie they’re paying homage to. (Though DePalma and Chan-wood’s “kinks” seem pretty legit and heart-on-sleeve…) Plus STOKER has tons and tons of wall-to-wall feet.

    But your points are valid.

    Cadavra, Rapace is cool in my book and Huppert in Heaven’s Gate is a goddess…. She still looks pretty good for her age in Amour.
32. SamLowry says:

    March 9, 2013 at 6:11 am

    “Without giving too much away, there’s more packed into the first half-hour of [Star Trek Into Darkness] than an entire season of Lost (and more than the suggestion that the island mystery show’s creator continues to be a film-maker with a fondness for spectacular set pieces that don’t always entirely fit the storyline).”

    This is supposed to make me want to see the movie? And if that’s not bad enough:

    “…this is a bigger, bolder but not necessarily slicker Star Trek movie – once again one with the emphasis on bombastic, heart-in-throat action and the developing bromantic tension between James T Kirk and Mr Spock, rather than the TV show’s mix of science geek intrigue and melodrama.”

    Pass.

    (I liked the unintentionally hilarious comment after the story that there are so few quality movies like 2001 in the pipeline anymore that the last Star Trek was therefore the best recent SF flick by default–and this was written by someone who was trying to praise the movie!)
33. sanj says:

    March 9, 2013 at 6:54 am

    cool 15 minute video about a baseball card worth millions
    or maybe not.

    ESPN 30 for 30 Shorts – Holy Grail: The T206 Honus Wagner

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71E_fbTzfFc
34. cadavra says:

    March 9, 2013 at 12:36 pm

    Lex: I’m proud of you!
35. sanj says:

    March 9, 2013 at 2:40 pm

    Jen Lawrence needs to take it up a level at being super awesome ….she should save a life on camera. DP get on that…have Ryan Gosling drive around with her in car in LA for an hour doing a double dp/30 – when Jen finds somebody in trouble she runs out and saves that person .. you catch it on camera and put it up on youtube and get like millions of views…and suddenly cnn is airing your video and DP finally get to meet Anderson Cooper…Jen becomes time person of the year 2013.
36. sanj says:

    March 12, 2013 at 12:22 am

    i read 100′s of comments about the latest episode of girls – on all fours – people can still be shocked at stuff on hbo which is good … maybe it’ll win an award – the casting for this series is pretty good …it shows how
    the secondary characters are just as important as the main cast – why are movie critics so shocked by this when they
    see this type of material in indie movies all the time ?

    the guest star Shiri Appleby did a great job on being on the screen for like 4 minutes…she should get an emmy.

    i guess i would be more shocked if i didn’t listen to the nerdist podcast she did..where she mentioned the episode
    but not in great detail ..she did mention quite a few personal details that did shock me a bit …but it was a great interview that DP could have gotten years ago …
    she was on that teen alien show called Rockwell …
    she wants to direct tv /web series now .

    shout out at everyone on girls for being too famous now for dp30 . DP missed out.