Comments on: 2012 Top Tens: The First of the Lists http://moviecitynews.com/2012/12/2012-top-tens-the-first-of-the-lists/ Hollywood's Homepage Sun, 19 May 2013 04:42:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Ray Pride http://moviecitynews.com/2012/12/2012-top-tens-the-first-of-the-lists/#comment-907209 Ray Pride Mon, 31 Dec 2012 18:43:52 +0000 http://moviecitynews.com/?p=165324#comment-907209 Updated: http://moviecitynews.com/2012/12/167362/ Updated: http://moviecitynews.com/2012/12/167362/

]]> By: Mark http://moviecitynews.com/2012/12/2012-top-tens-the-first-of-the-lists/#comment-906995 Mark Mon, 31 Dec 2012 13:55:05 +0000 http://moviecitynews.com/?p=165324#comment-906995 Please, where is the updated chart? This is 10 days old, there have been dozens of lists released since then. Thanks. Please, where is the updated chart? This is 10 days old, there have been dozens of lists released since then. Thanks.

]]> By: Bryan http://moviecitynews.com/2012/12/2012-top-tens-the-first-of-the-lists/#comment-900587 Bryan Fri, 21 Dec 2012 15:38:27 +0000 http://moviecitynews.com/?p=165324#comment-900587 For as many movies that wowed me this year, it seems like there were even more letdowns. This article does a good job of laying out where those films went wrong. Good read: http://ahorizontalmyth.wordpress.com/2012/12/20/year-in-letdowns-2012s-disappointing-films/ For as many movies that wowed me this year, it seems like there were even more letdowns. This article does a good job of laying out where those films went wrong.

Good read: http://ahorizontalmyth.wordpress.com/2012/12/20/year-in-letdowns-2012s-disappointing-films/

]]> By: fred http://moviecitynews.com/2012/12/2012-top-tens-the-first-of-the-lists/#comment-899804 fred Thu, 20 Dec 2012 00:18:34 +0000 http://moviecitynews.com/?p=165324#comment-899804 @Eric M. Van - I notiiced that with "The Avengers" inclusion on this stupid chart as well, where the hell is it. We both know it should end up being on quite a few best films list, i've already seen it on few best films lists, this site is just retarded man, it always has been. @Eric M. Van – I notiiced that with “The Avengers” inclusion on this stupid chart as well, where the hell is it. We both know it should end up being on quite a few best films list, i’ve already seen it on few best films lists, this site is just retarded man, it always has been.

]]> By: TheFigTree http://moviecitynews.com/2012/12/2012-top-tens-the-first-of-the-lists/#comment-899769 TheFigTree Wed, 19 Dec 2012 22:29:04 +0000 http://moviecitynews.com/?p=165324#comment-899769 1. @Eric I agree completely that the point tally isn't exactly right and I'd love to see how your version comes out. Any chance you could post the results on a blog or a list site (such as icheckmovies or listsofbests)? The current lists can be found on listsofbests if you search for MCN. 2. Having used each year's list to find great movies, I've found that every year has well over 10 movies that I love (I'd say between 25 and 35 for seriously interesting films). Therefore, I REALLY HOPE that film critics move towards TOP 20 lists instead, like Ebert did last year! If film critics see over 100 films a year, why wouldn't they want to spend as much time talking about the ones they love. 3. Thank you MCN for continuing to compile these lists. As a result, your website is as important to me as my other favorite, theyshootpictures. 1. @Eric I agree completely that the point tally isn’t exactly right and I’d love to see how your version comes out. Any chance you could post the results on a blog or a list site (such as icheckmovies or listsofbests)? The current lists can be found on listsofbests if you search for MCN.

2. Having used each year’s list to find great movies, I’ve found that every year has well over 10 movies that I love (I’d say between 25 and 35 for seriously interesting films). Therefore, I REALLY HOPE that film critics move towards TOP 20 lists instead, like Ebert did last year! If film critics see over 100 films a year, why wouldn’t they want to spend as much time talking about the ones they love.

3. Thank you MCN for continuing to compile these lists. As a result, your website is as important to me as my other favorite, theyshootpictures.

]]> By: Eric M. Van http://moviecitynews.com/2012/12/2012-top-tens-the-first-of-the-lists/#comment-899270 Eric M. Van Wed, 19 Dec 2012 00:20:36 +0000 http://moviecitynews.com/?p=165324#comment-899270 Through the 18th, 101 films have now been mentioned, and no one has listed The Avengers. Or, for that matter, Cloud Atlas, Seven Psychopaths, or (and this is perhaps a bigger surprise) End of Watch. Incidentally, David Denby clearly had Lincoln, Zero, and Beasts as 1 through 3 respectively. And though he included The Master in his writeup, he ended up calling it a failure, so it shouldn't be in his list at all. That leaves 7 remaining films, which you can give 4 points each to. Through the 18th, 101 films have now been mentioned, and no one has listed The Avengers. Or, for that matter, Cloud Atlas, Seven Psychopaths, or (and this is perhaps a bigger surprise) End of Watch.

Incidentally, David Denby clearly had Lincoln, Zero, and Beasts as 1 through 3 respectively. And though he included The Master in his writeup, he ended up calling it a failure, so it shouldn’t be in his list at all. That leaves 7 remaining films, which you can give 4 points each to.

]]> By: Eric M. Van http://moviecitynews.com/2012/12/2012-top-tens-the-first-of-the-lists/#comment-899048 Eric M. Van Tue, 18 Dec 2012 14:54:25 +0000 http://moviecitynews.com/?p=165324#comment-899048 There is, and always has been, a fundamental flaw in the way you rank the films. There's no critic in the world who thinks their #1 film is 10 times as good as their #10 film, but that's how much credit you end up giving them. Given that there's 150 or 200 films worth seeing in a given year, a film that's #3 on a single critic's list and passed over by everyone else has not received more support than a film that was ranked #10 by seven different critics, but it gets more points from you. I always pull your table into a spreadsheet and calculate 8 * votes + total, which gives a #1 vote twice as much credit as a #10 vote. That seems right to me, and I know I've seen others do the same. You should seriously think about renaming "Total" as "Points" and calculating a new "Total" in this fashion. There is, and always has been, a fundamental flaw in the way you rank the films. There’s no critic in the world who thinks their #1 film is 10 times as good as their #10 film, but that’s how much credit you end up giving them. Given that there’s 150 or 200 films worth seeing in a given year, a film that’s #3 on a single critic’s list and passed over by everyone else has not received more support than a film that was ranked #10 by seven different critics, but it gets more points from you.

I always pull your table into a spreadsheet and calculate 8 * votes + total, which gives a #1 vote twice as much credit as a #10 vote. That seems right to me, and I know I’ve seen others do the same. You should seriously think about renaming “Total” as “Points” and calculating a new “Total” in this fashion.

]]> By: fred http://moviecitynews.com/2012/12/2012-top-tens-the-first-of-the-lists/#comment-898509 fred Mon, 17 Dec 2012 17:56:02 +0000 http://moviecitynews.com/?p=165324#comment-898509 Man put some more Top 10 lists out, this has been the same list with the same critics for a week now. Man put some more Top 10 lists out, this has been the same list with the same critics for a week now.

]]> By: Burl http://moviecitynews.com/2012/12/2012-top-tens-the-first-of-the-lists/#comment-898448 Burl Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:54:45 +0000 http://moviecitynews.com/?p=165324#comment-898448 Look forward to your excellent Top Tens List every year. And every year I hope for a "Printer Friendly" button to be added to the top. Just the columns for rank, title, votes and total. Maybe next year... Look forward to your excellent Top Tens List every year. And every year I hope for a “Printer Friendly” button to be added to the top. Just the columns for rank, title, votes and total. Maybe next year…

]]> By: Djiggs http://moviecitynews.com/2012/12/2012-top-tens-the-first-of-the-lists/#comment-898231 Djiggs Mon, 17 Dec 2012 04:43:18 +0000 http://moviecitynews.com/?p=165324#comment-898231 Holy Motors is the movie that will stand the test of time as the greatest of 2012. Holy Motors is the movie that will stand the test of time as the greatest of 2012.

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