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Posted Tuesday, April 26th, 2011 - 74 Comments »

BYOB 42611

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74 Responses to “BYOB 42611”

  1. IOv3 says:
    April 26, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    So… does anyone here know the Madison?

  2. Don Murphy says:
    April 26, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    Kingo Poland writes-

    Foamy, I didn’t say it didn’t happen in my house. That’s not what Don accused me of. But I allow my editors to do their job and if the accusation was of any significance whatsoever, I would have addressed it.Don accused you of removing Wells’ name from a third party quote and replacing it with Blogger X. I am unsure what the difference is if YOU did it personally or your editors did it as part of a policy you have. Is it policy at your place to treat Wells as Voldemort?

    I still don’t know why Don is such a whiny child about me, but honestly, he’s not worth the time. If this WERE true the paragraph would end right here, but Kingo continues Everyone in town puts up with his 6 yr old behaviors because he has some great ideas they can make money with. This is 100% true because David knows the town so well. Just ask him. He has the best understanding of what every person and studio needs to be doing. So instead of #winning, he’s #trashing. Yawn. He’s a coward will meet you Kingo anywhere, anytime with Foamy and Leydon as Referees. Then we’ll see who the coward is and a liar I have asked you in the past to list ONE lie, but you never do. One should be easy if I am such a liar. You gonna tell me Voynar DOESN’T owe Marie Callendars $5321 in past due pie bills? and tends to stalking behaviors. open your door when you say that But he’s had zero effect on my work aka unread articles about the future of the business or business, so…. or HAS he?

  3. Joe Leydon says:
    April 26, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    Do I get to wear a striped shirt?

  4. Don Murphy says:
    April 26, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    And a pocket watch. Make sure it has a second hand that’s all you will need.

  5. David Poland says:
    April 26, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    Again, I have no policy about any writer. Things I disagree with are posted daily.

    Aside from that one substantive issue, this is all playground taunting.

  6. Don Murphy says:
    April 26, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    on whose part?
    I simply want to know why HE WHO MUST NOT BE NAMED was not named.

  7. David Poland says:
    April 26, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    Wouldn’t have been a big deal to answer that question if you had simply asked.

    And as far as I know, I have never used that phrase.

  8. Don Murphy says:
    April 26, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    Jesus Christ Readers- I have asked that question. WHAT is the answer? Viaduct? I don’t know.

  9. sanj says:
    April 26, 2011 at 10:52 pm

    hey DP – any thoughts on the music video for
    Beastie Boys ‘Fight For Your Right Revisited’
    lots of actors in the 20 minute video …
    the actors did a good job but i just didn’t like
    the concept of the video

    in the state of the union dp/30 .. there was mention how
    quickly dvd’s come out like 4 months – but look at all
    your sundance interviews / movies – most of those
    aren’t on dvd yet ..its a major festival and lots of
    big actors .. so is it a good thing to wait 8 months or longer ? when most of these movies don’t have huge budgets …

    also waiting for 100 new people to show up for
    a DP/30

  10. Foamy Squirrel says:
    April 26, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    Oookies. All I was saying was that a response along the lines of “I believe it would have been left out by one of the editors, I’ll look into it” would have been perfectly fine, as opposed to “I didn’t post or edit the Glenn Kenny quote, Schmucko.”

    As I understand it, Don takes issue with the long industry pieces which contain stuff along the lines of “people shouting down a truth teller is more than a little pathetic” (from the Christine Vachon post)… which then get little or no response. I think it comes across as a little “…and if you don’t agree with me, you’re an idiot”, which positions DP as The Only Sane Man In Town (With An Ever Shrinking Audience).

    I don’t know if that last part is true, given that the same thing happens over at Finke’s for the stuff that’s a little too esoteric, but I can understand how an “I’m right; you’re wrong” stance can be a little offputting if accompanied by a longwinded diatribe.

  11. Foamy Squirrel says:
    April 26, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    Incidentally, any other Hotbloggers in London for The Wedding ™?

  12. IOv3 says:
    April 26, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    FS, oh I wish, but you mean the HOT BLOG OFFICIAL STANCE OF STATING A SUBJECTIVE OPINION AS FACT! Poland hates what Netflix is doing for reasons that are his opinion but he sells them as fact. He does it all the time, and god is it fucking annoying.

  13. Foamy Squirrel says:
    April 26, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    Looks like it’s going to rain on Friday, so we’re dithering whether to set up in Hyde Park for the day or just line the street somewhere and run off to shelter as soon as the wedding party goes past.

  14. IOv3 says:
    April 26, 2011 at 11:14 pm

    Raining on a wedding day is seen as a good omen to some folks, so that’s something. Now, again, I admit to this being over the top but you sir, are in ENGLAND! If there is one thing the Brits do well, it’s ENDURING! So, sir, set up at Hyde Park all day and ENDURE IT :D !

  15. Al says:
    April 27, 2011 at 12:06 am

    The one day of the week it’s not warm and sunny, kind of funny.
    Foamy why don’t you go to Green Park? It’s closer to the palace

  16. David Poland says:
    April 27, 2011 at 12:30 am

    Foamy – I haven’t been doing this successfully for 15 years by worrying much about backseat drivers.

    Everyone has an opinion…. that’s why I allow and enjoy comments. They often make me think. A lot. They are also very stupid or myopic sometimes. Such is the nature of the beast. And if you feel the same of me, fine. I can’t linger on how you feel about me. I am interested in ideas. If you read something I write and you come away thinking about me, you’re not getting the point. If you can’t see the facts for the personality, maybe I am not writing well… but I can be sure, you aren’t reading well. That doesn’t make my conclusions right or wrong. But with few exceptions, I am not frivolous.

    And so, once again, my analysis of the least interesting part of my work here… Me.

  17. David Poland says:
    April 27, 2011 at 12:36 am

    IO… you hate facts. Stop pretending you have any interest in anything deeper than your fan worship of “enter subject here.”

    Nothing wrong with being a fan blinded by love. But the nasty claims that everyone who disagrees with you is evil got old years ago.

  18. Foamy Squirrel says:
    April 27, 2011 at 1:11 am

    Meh, your blog your rules. I just thought you’d like a little perspective of where Don’s coming from. It’s not as if being an opinionated bastard is a mortal sin in the entertainment industry. ;)

    Re: London Parks, my understanding is that Hyde Park will have all the various stands and big screens so you can see the wedding itself. Dunno about Green Park, I’ll have to look into it.

  19. al says:
    April 27, 2011 at 2:45 am

    Ah yeah makes sense. I was just thinking in terms of location but Hyde Park is bound to have more room to breathe in anyway. Enjoy the show Foamy :)

  20. IOv3 says:
    April 27, 2011 at 7:07 am

    David, I really hate to break it you, but your interpretation to me is bullshit. Mine of you, unfortunately you, is right on point.

    Lex pointed this out about your Sucker Punch review and the way you do things is based around you putting forward a subjective opinion as FACT. Please do not insult my or anyone’s intelligence by stating otherwise because there are way too many posts from you to prove my point.

    There are also countless fucking posts of mine that prove I could care less if anyone agrees with me. Seriously David, I could care less (Oh yeah, the hell with anyone who gives anyone shit for being a fan. You have some fucking nerve Dreamgirls. You real fucking nerve), and the fact that you think I think that way is another fine example of the David Poland REACHING FOR STRAWS TACTICS of ATTACKING PEOPLE.

    You are attacking me and guess what? YOU DO A SHITTY JOB OF IT. Don Murphy may be 3 year old in your eyes but you are worse because you fain being a full-grown adult, when you post replies like the ones above like an teenager throwing a fit from having their WoW account turned off.

  22. Foamy Squirrel says:
    April 27, 2011 at 7:29 am

    His mother was 18 and dad 25? I suspect that might have had something to do with Obama’s reluctance to release it – I don’t think I’d heard that before.

    IO – if they were in the middle of a 25H raid that teenager is perfectly entitled to throw a fit and sue their parents.

  23. Don Murphy says:
    April 27, 2011 at 7:48 am

    And still, by making it about me, Kingo’s Moriarty, we still have no answer to the question.

    Is Wells’ name as a matter of policy to be redacted on your site by your editors and IF NOT then why was it?

  24. David Poland says:
    April 27, 2011 at 8:18 am

    Thanks, IO. As insightful as ever.

  25. David Poland says:
    April 27, 2011 at 8:32 am

    Don, you opted out of having me take you or your question seriously after all the blather. You like the guy who claims his wife still hasn’t answered “the question” (which is inevitably as inconsequential as this line of inquiry) after he’s punched her in the face a few times because “she had it coming.” You’re like Trump, claiming to have done a service to the nation because Obama released the birth certificate. “Why are you making this about me and ignorning the tiny piece of corn in the shit I was throwing in your face? You know, that corn’s nutritious! And all I care about is nutrition!”

    That said, I already answered the issue of any site policy.

  26. Don Murphy says:
    April 27, 2011 at 9:33 am

    I love how Kingo argues with everyone who points out the truth.
    “It’s all of you guys who are wrong, I am the only sane one here.”

    Classic Mental Illness.

  27. David Poland says:
    April 27, 2011 at 9:36 am

    Keep dancing, Don.

  28. Don Murphy says:
    April 27, 2011 at 10:50 am

    Anybody else here wish to explain it to me? Genuinely? What is the site policy? Can Jeff Wells be mentioned by the staff or must be be blotted out?

  29. David Poland says:
    April 27, 2011 at 11:03 am

    Look at the MCN Twitter feed, Don. And look at the 9:22 entry on this comment thread last night. If you need reading glasses to see what’s in front of you, I will send you some.

  30. Don Murphy says:
    April 27, 2011 at 11:06 am

    1416 North LaBrea, Los Angeles, CA 90028.

  31. Joe Leydon says:
    April 27, 2011 at 11:40 am

    So that’s where I can send you my script, Don?

  32. storymark says:
    April 27, 2011 at 12:10 pm

    That’s it – to the thunderdome with the both of you.

  33. Anghus says:
    April 27, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    Joe, only if its about a time travelling robot driving instructor and his best friend, a talking pie.

  34. Krillian says:
    April 27, 2011 at 1:55 pm

    (Crumples up screenplay two-thirds finished when he sees Anghus had the same idea. Goes back to his corporate-lawyer-switches-bodies-with-circus-elephant script outline.)

  35. IOv3 says:
    April 27, 2011 at 3:54 pm

    David, more insight than just about anything you add on a daily basis. Seriously, your comparisons used in an attempt to insult Don demonstrate in spades why you are such a peculiar bird.

  36. sanj says:
    April 27, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    another spoof comedy movie…

    Not Another Not Another Movie trailer

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7DGgvVfV60

  37. Martin S says:
    April 27, 2011 at 7:16 pm

    IO – how does Marvel operate?

    What’s that? You don’t have a fucking clue, but will claim ancillaries make up for theatrical shortcomings?

    What’s that? A case of you stating opinion as fact?!

    What was that you said?

    http://moviecitynews.com/2011/04/the-end-of-days-april-18-2011/#comment-368501

    2) I appreciate Poland, always will, but the dude is frustrating. If I had no respect for him, I would not have edited the threads up there that I did even if I left them snarky like an asshole.

    Really? Is that what the above load of shit shows? You jump into a spat that has nothing to fucking do with your dumbass and piss on Dave. That’s an appreciation?

    Oh, I’m sorry. I should ask first what external event has occurred to make you hostile – this time.

  38. IOv3 says:
    April 27, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    Man, that’s too many words, and let’s break it down: I could give a shit about you Martin. Seriously, keep poking me with a stick. I could care less.

  39. IOv3 says:
    April 27, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    FEAR THE HUMANCENTIPAD and the Human Centipede: easily the stupidest recent horror movie hyped as genius.

  40. sanj says:
    April 27, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    after that southpark apple episode …lots more people will find out about the human centipide movie

    also DP – when are you going to do a Steve Jobs DP/30.
    probably never. he’s too busy making more ipads iphones…and all sorts idevices. Jobs is just too busy to
    talk to anybody ..which is kinda weird cause they make
    lots of communcation devices.

    can you write some comments on apple products ? does it seem like they have a monopoly on digital media – movies / music … i mean ..if they charged 1 dollar
    for movies that come out within 12 weeks in theatres
    can apple beat netflix ? could that boost sales of the ipad which is like 500 bucks .

    i’m one of the few people that doesn’t use apple products …yeah i’m lame.
    but i’ve been to the apple store..which does look nice.

  41. leahnz says:
    April 27, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    hi yo silver armie hammer

    (re: ‘super 8′ via d-box, i wonder if it’s just a matter of time before most cinemas are fitted with d-box seats in the effort keep the cinema-going experience viable as a point of difference from the ever-sophisticating home theatre laze. if d-box is 3D compatible, that could be pretty trippy – poke, jerk, zoom, fall, crash! cinemas might need in-house medics for those delicate souls susceptible to 3D-box sickness)

  42. sanj says:
    April 27, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    how to get lady gaga eyes .. skip to the last 2 minutes.
    just kinda neat.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHVOxhEpjp0

  43. anghus says:
    April 28, 2011 at 8:36 am

    So it seems Dylan Dog is tracking around $900.00

    Unfortunately that’s not the per screen average but the weekend gross.

  44. storymark says:
    April 28, 2011 at 9:28 am

    Im amazed at how many ads Ive seen for that flick. Comedy Central plays them during every break at night.

  45. Don R. Lewis says:
    April 28, 2011 at 10:56 am

    Everytime it’s a BYOB it devolves into a “Bring Your Own Bitchfestaboutthis Blog.” Actually, this one started that way. But still. Don’t you people have anything better to do with yourselves?

  46. Paul MD (Stella's Boy) says:
    April 28, 2011 at 11:10 am

    Yeah this place ain’t what it used to be.

  48. Paul MD (Stella's Boy) says:
    April 28, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    Which is really unfortunate. It’s not like people never argued. Hard to forget the days when Nicol was an everyday poster. But I don’t remember nastiness and petty bickering being a daily occurrence. Like Don said, it seems like every single BYOB devolves into heated arguments about stupid shit.

  49. storymark says:
    April 28, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    …that always revolving around the same people.

  50. Paul MD (Stella's Boy) says:
    April 28, 2011 at 12:18 pm

    Yes very true storymark.

  51. Joe Leydon says:
    April 28, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    Well, maybe it’s up to us to make more non-contentious postings.

    BTW: Look! I’m an “expert” — it says so right here!

    http://www.movieline.com/2011/04/pundit-poll-experts-name-this-summers-most-anticipated-films.php#comments

  52. Foamy Squirrel says:
    April 28, 2011 at 12:37 pm

    Since you ask, Don. No – I don’t have anything better to do. ;)

  53. Paul MD (Stella's Boy) says:
    April 28, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    That’s true Joe. I know I have allowed myself to get dragged down into the much and very much regret it. And I hope Cowboys & Aliens is half as awesome as the Syfy Channel masterpiece High Plains Invaders, which features giant CGI extraterrestrial insects attacking a town in the Old West.

  54. Tim DeGroot says:
    April 28, 2011 at 12:42 pm

    “Yeah this place ain’t what it used to be.”
    “Paul: Amen.”
    “Hard to forget the days when Nicol was an everyday poster. But I don’t remember nastiness and petty bickering being a daily occurrence.”
    http://moviecitynews.com/2009/07/walter-cronkite-rip/#comments

  55. Foamy Squirrel says:
    April 28, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    Aw… Joe, did your mommy write an article for you?

  56. Paul MD (Stella's Boy) says:
    April 28, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    Yes Tim that discussion got fairly heated.

  57. Joe Leydon says:
    April 28, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    Foamy: That would be difficult, unless the editor has contact with the spirit world.

  58. Foamy Squirrel says:
    April 28, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    Check to see if there’s a comment: “Help help! Let me out of this coffin!”

  59. Joe Leydon says:
    April 28, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    Tim: Oh, I can think of even nastiest threads than that one. But that’s the point: I bet all of us long-timers can point to individual threads where things got inexcusably out of hand. Now… well, such threads are practically everyday occurances.

  60. Joe Leydon says:
    April 28, 2011 at 1:18 pm

    Foamy: That reminds me of an awful joke I heard back in grade school. What did one casket say to the other casket? Is that you, coffin?

  61. sanj says:
    April 28, 2011 at 2:21 pm

    hey movie reviewers – does it ever bug you when non movie reviewers – just average people get more views on youtube videos than your professional reviews ?

  62. Joe Leydon says:
    April 28, 2011 at 2:43 pm

    Sanj: Not as long as I keep toting up the hits for this one. http://youtu.be/eZPnEEtvXTU

  63. Krillian says:
    April 28, 2011 at 3:02 pm

    Love the cigar whip-out at the end.

  64. leahnz says:
    April 28, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    quote from joe’s thing by favreau re: cowboys & aliens:

    ‘What we’ve done, essentially, is set up this very serious, very stark, very dangerous world with all the conventions that apply to a traditional Western. And into the middle of that world, we drop aliens — and then have people react the way people in that world would have reacted.’

    that sounds intriguing in theory, but just from the sensibility on display in the trailers for C&A, it sounds like a bit of wishful thinking on fav’s part; the western world in the trailers doesn’t exactly look like ‘unforgiven’, more like a slick b-movie western, which makes the premise of juxtaposing a stark, realistic, deadly western with an alien invasion seem a bit more promising than what appears in the previews…plus while i’m a fan of most his directorial efforts to various degrees, nothing in the style of ‘made’ or ‘elf’ or ‘zathura’ or ‘iron man’ indicates to me that fav is especially suited to creating the world of a ‘serious, stark and deadly’ western — but i guess stranger things have happened, and i never trust trailers, marketing is the devil. i’m still keen to see it.

  65. Joe Leydon says:
    April 28, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    Actually, Leah, it was co-screenwriter Alex Kurtzman, not Favreau, who said that.

  66. Krillian says:
    April 28, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    Still, what about “Made” made you think he could do “Elf”? And what about those made you think he could do “Iron Man”? Favreau’s a director I’ll put faith in.

  67. sanj says:
    April 28, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    January Jones Is Pregnant!

    yeah but your not an oscar winner like Natalie Portman who is also going to be a mom.

    maybe Jones can do Black Swan 2

  68. leahnz says:
    April 28, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    joe: my bad, it says that very clearly in the piece. that’s what i get for speed reading on my tea break.

  69. Joe Leydon says:
    April 28, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    Or taking speed on your tea break. (I keed, I keed.)

  70. leahnz says:
    April 28, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    i’m on a natural freaking high, joe (nah actually i’m knackered but TGIF)

  71. Joe Leydon says:
    April 28, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    BTW: Favreau did tell me that, right after Swingers, he and Vince Vaughan actually wrote a straight-up Western titled The Marshal of Revelation — but they couldn’t find anyone willing to finance a straight-up Western at the time. Go figure.

  72. leahnz says:
    April 28, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    mike and trent in the old west…(i think those reticent, no-bull cowboys might have kicked motormouth trent’s ass, after he tried to pull some funny business at the poker table or some such, and mike would have made a good saloon proprietor)

    but in all seriousness, vaughan’s career appears to have taken a tragic turn somewhere around 2007, i wonder what happened

  73. yancyskancy says:
    April 29, 2011 at 1:31 am

    Yeah, I though Vaughn was super in WEDDING CRASHERS and THE BREAK-UP, almost an actor-as-auteur situation. But I don’t get his choices lately.

  74. sanj says:
    April 29, 2011 at 9:46 am

    your highness missed out on making big money off the royal wedding. they should have bought like 1000 tv ads for the movie trailer…as a historical comedy about old kings and stuff.

    also Keira Knightley should have married prince William…the dvd sales would have sold well…even
    the crappy movies people would have bought ..then then a week later she could divorce him and keep all the dvd money.

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