Uh… not really…
I always find it sad when the smarter awards groups push to be first like it matters.
In 5 years of giving a Best Feature award, the first two years’ winners were Oscar nominated… the last three years were not. Make of it what you will.
Anyway…
The 19th Annual Gotham Independent Film Award
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I don’t see any honorees on here that look like the Gotham Awards are trying to be an Oscar indicator. Maybe they’re trying to give awards to the best work? Hard to believe, I know.
Gotham INDEPENDENT FILM Awards…
DP, are you saying you want the Gothams to work harder to play the Oscar-prediction game? Don’t you hate that game?
While I personally like the Gotham awards and think they tend to make good, interesting choices, I think Dave’s point is why do the announce the awards so early if they’re not playing the Oscar game? Why not wait until (shocker) the end of the year?
And to answer my own devil’s advocate questions, I think it is because they do want to influence the awards to consider some titles that might and often do get lost come Oscar time. The fact that they don’t make enough impact does make that a questionable decision, though.
“It starts here”
Could it be any more overt, Eric.
They aren’t trying to be an indicator…no one is… they are trying to appear to be an influence… or to even actually be one.
The hypocrisy of all these groups that claim to be above it who then jostle for position with legs spread wider than the Golden Globes Of Fuck Me I’m (Enter Country Here) is overwhelming.
Yes… Gothams seem to want to reach higher. But don’t forget… “it starts here.”
The truth is, this particular battle is with Film Independent more than with Oscar. But even in a season with the Oscars in March, the ONLY high-profile awards-giving body other than Oscar that will be voting with less than 2 weeks to go before the end of the year (“there are too many movies!!!! Let’s vote earlier!) is National Society of Film Critics.
Do we really need to be defining the year in a hurry, trying to be first, trying to find an audience for these things that is bigger than our well-established niches, not really just celebrating?
Where does it say “It starts here?”
If that’s going to be the basis for criticism for a press release you’re going to partially reprint, you really need to include it in your post, or at least link to the whole thing. What you did reprint is totally innocuous.
Ah, I pulled out my microscope and saw it in the image. My mistake. Even after seeing it, though, it’s so vague that it be taken any way you want.
Moreover, my earlier point stands: if this group had any interest in influencing or being seen as influencing the Oscars, these are not the honorees they would have picked.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, sometimes an award is just an award.