Taking Sides?

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9 Responses to “Taking Sides?”

1. jeffmcm says:

   October 26, 2006 at 3:52 pm

   Hey, David, is there _any_ media outlet that you still have respect for? I would be interested to hear just for the sake of contrast.
2. David Poland says:

   October 26, 2006 at 5:14 pm

   Well, Jeff… you might want to look on the cover of MCN for dozens of daily links to stories we think worth reading.
   Btw… do you have any thoughts about the actual topic? Or were you just waiting for Spam to leave so you could get rolling again?
3. jeffmcm says:

   October 26, 2006 at 6:56 pm

   It was an honest, if lazy, question.
   You have links to the L.A. Times and the N.Y. Times and every other outlet that you regularly criticie on your front page, so I assume that front-page-status is not an endorsement.
4. David Poland says:

   October 26, 2006 at 7:18 pm

   What gets posted in here, Jeff, is intended to be discussion points, not a way for me to let off steam. There are many, many stupid stories – incliuding in the major papers- that never get posted or commented on.
   The point of this post was to discuss this piece and whether it is reasonable or fair. Spam chose to slam Jeff Ressner. You took a shot at me. My interest is only the discussion. Maybe you don’t care about the subject. But I do.
   And frankly, the idea that I read all these things because I don’t respect any media is silly. I like around 10% of what I read a lot, am irritated by about 20% and most of it is just fodder. Fodder is not a conversation starter.
5. James Leer says:

   October 26, 2006 at 7:43 pm

   DP likes British newspapers a lot.
6. jeffmcm says:

   October 26, 2006 at 8:12 pm

   I didn’t ‘take a shot’ at you, DP. I’m sorry if you think so, but I think it’s a sign of your oversensitivity and not my insistent needling.
   The meta-theme of every story that you post along these lines is that the traditional media is slipping in its standards, which I agree with. My question, which apparently I needed to rephrase to avoid offending you, still remains: are there any media outlets who still have standards and integrity?
   You really mustn’t get so defensive when your readers question your underlying premises instead of limiting ourselves to your own parameters of discussion.
7. David Poland says:

   October 26, 2006 at 11:39 pm

   Anything on the subject, Jeff?
8. jeffmcm says:

   October 27, 2006 at 12:39 am

   If you’re going to insist that people only write on your narrowly circumscribed topic, then no. A news outlet has allowed themselves to be corrupted. Fine, I’m sure you’re right, you typically do your homework about these things.
   If I might be allowed to ask about the bigger picture, though, that underlies your topic – what this means to the culture at large, and once again, if there are any trustworthy news outlets at all in this day and age, then I hope I can have that conversation. Because I find the whole topic very frustrating, and as far as I’m concerned, constantly nattering around the edges doesn’t help any.
9. KamikazeCamelV2.0 says:

   October 27, 2006 at 12:49 am

   “still remains: are there any media outlets who still have standards and integrity?”
   Seems like a decent question to me. Considering nobody else seemed to have anything to say about the actual topic, was it so hard to just answer him and save all the negative mumbo jumbo?