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By David Poland poland@moviecitynews.com

ComicConning

“ComicCon just keeps getting bigger because it is a really cheap way to reach tens of thousands of the core demo for a lot of expensive studio product and to inspire grass roots enthusiasm. And the media follows the Pied Piper’s tune, writing about the thumbs up/thumbs down reaction of The 6000 in Conference Room H.
It is not unlike advertising on the Super Bowl. It is way overpriced as a specific advertisement, but buying a minute for $2.5 million not only announces how serious you are about a particular movie, but it also leads to days and days of anticipation and analysis in all media, from old to new and everywhere in between.”
From Tuesday’s Hot Button

65 Responses to “ComicConning”

  1. Bruce says:

    It gets major play in all the papers too. Starts off a good buzz.

  2. LesterFreed says:

    It’s strictly for geeks and nerds. It’s like one huge Star Trek convention. Was Leonard Nimoy there?

  3. Terence D says:

    I wish they had a website where we could see the trailers and the promos and such. Since not everyone can be there to see it. Seems to me like a marketing thing that could be exploited further.

  4. Long-Winded Bastard says:

    Heh, conventions … those days are long behind me but it’s been interesting to see how much of a marketing tool they have indeed become (the ones I worked were considerably more downmarket than ComicCon). I think Terence has a point about “a marketing thing that could be exploited further,” but my experience of conventions has always been that they are fairly deliberately exclusional, it’s always about those who “have access” and keep it pretty much to themselves. Joan Winston’s fascinating but revolting book “The Making of the Star Trek Conventions,” from 1975 or so, is perhaps the earliest and most vivid print exploration of this phenomenon: to quote one of her critics, “Winston is on the ‘inside trek’ and wants to make absolutely sure you know it.’”
    I never worked the Trek circuit, but even in smaller fandoms the precise sort of exclusional behavior occurs, and I’m not always sure it’s unnecessary; no matter how cheerful the talent, the fans *will* exhaust them if given the chance, which is one more reason I no longer attend conventions in any capacity, it just brings back a lot of sleepless nights, foggy mornings, and an absolute pittance of any semblance of thanks (not to mention that if you’re not a toy dealer the cash is negligible). I’ve made some lifelong friends through the cons, but that’s sort of an “exception proving the rule” thing , I’m afraid, because the majority remain insanely self-absorbed freaks who are hellbent on spending ridiculous amounts of money on minutiae nobody normal would want, and then getting as much signed as possible so they can hawk it later on e-Bay. Short of being a prison guard or a prostitute, I don’t know if there’s a more depressing way to hack at a living.

  5. Angelus21 says:

    I would really like to see some of those presentations. Why don’t they post them online since ALL their fans are online?

  6. Panda Bear says:

    They should really make a reality show out of those Star Trek conventions. The comedy that comes out of that would be hilarious.
    Best SNL skit ever. Shatner at the convention. “Get a life!”

  7. terp says:

    Comic Con DOES have another convention. Also, you’ve missed the whole point of Comic Con. You only see one side of it – the only side visible to someone invited there by publicists. You’ll probably never see the other side, but as you said, it’s not your cup of tea. Which puts a pretty ironic twist on your professed authority over all things Comic Con, doesn’t it.

  8. esme says:

    Ok. I read Tuesday’s Hot Button. Interesting comments. But there’s something missing. V for Vendetta, anyone?

  9. joefitz84 says:

    Terp, what do you mean? You’re talking in circles.

  10. jeffmcm says:

    Terp is saying that Dave Poland got the deluxe press tour, not the ground-level experience that normal fans get. Correct me if I’m wrong.

  11. JW says:

    Look at the Mac! HE’S EXTRAPOLATING! HE’S EXTRAPOLATING! Also, these presentations do show up online. You just have to a) know the people that b) know where they are located.

  12. jeffmcm says:

    My overall goal in life is to clear up confusion.

  13. Mark says:

    You could make that a full time job just following old JW around.

  14. David Poland says:

    I experienced neither the deluxe press tour or the true geek experience. I did no press events at all (except for attending 3 cocktails and a dinner, where I left the talent to the others)… and I am not the enthusiast that many geeks are.
    Ironically, the same is true, but different, about AICN and other true geek sites. They received more ass kissing, but also care a lot more than I.
    At any event with nearly 100,000 people, there is no definitive view. Less than 10% of attendees fit in the big hall. So how many people saw the Superman presentation? I am more representative than those who did.
    That said, I never professed any authority about all things comicon… I just offered my perspective. So please remove the stick from both of our asses, Terp.

  15. Panda Bear says:

    Sites like AICN live for these events. The ass kissing makes their lives. Nerds on top of other nerds. It’s heaven.

  16. KamikazeCamel says:

    AICN can probably ask as much for advertising as you say ComiCon does. They probably get heaps of traffic this time of the year don’t they?
    And, yay, We have a new overly opinionated person at the blog in the form of Terp! Excitement to the MAX.
    Wasn’t the movie “Trekkies” about Trekky conventionites?

  17. bicycle bob says:

    yea they made a movie about people that go to these conventions. its called revenge of the nerds.

  18. BluStealer says:

    I couldn’t go to one of these things. As a girl in her 20′s I’d be stared at, probed, gawked at, and hit on by grown men still living in the basement. Not to say I wouldn’t want to catch the presentations of Aeon Flux and others. I need a press pass and some bodyguards.

  19. Terence D says:

    A girl at one of these events = Fresh meat.
    Run!

  20. Terence D says:

    Looks like Fanastic Four will get that sequel. Maybe they can come up with a script and get a competent director.

  21. Stella's Boy says:

    I know what you mean blustealer. I can’t go anywhere in public where large groups of women are present without causing a riot. Really puts a damper on your social life.

  22. Terence D says:

    Don’t you mean nerds, not women?

  23. Stella's Boy says:

    Nerds are jealous because of all the women following me.

  24. LesterFreed says:

    Ugly women be following you. That much is the truth. Be proud, young man.

  25. Stella's Boy says:

    Don’t hate just because I am still young and attractive Lester. I can’t help it. It’s God’s will.

  26. LesterFreed says:

    From all my years of experience I have learned a few things in life. One is that any guy that brags doesn’t really get any. And two is that every young lady whether she likes it or not likes jazz. So always have a Miles Davis album handy.

  27. Stella's Boy says:

    I was just responding to BluStealers claim that she could never go to ComicCon or something like it because she would be harrassed due to her incredible beauty. I found that to be an amusing claim. So I’m not bragging.

  28. Terence D says:

    I don’t know how I would react if one of my daughters brought home one of the conventions attendees. I dont know whether to be scared for her life or happy that shes with someone smart. Obvious use of stereotypes here.

  29. JW says:

    Most folks in this thread are oblivious to the simple fact; Comic-Con is a HONEY POT. There are good looking girls all over the place. An almost RUFUSIAN like affair, where it’s as if all of these fine women just fell from the sky. Who know what Blu looks like. It really does not matter. Comic-Con not actually a hideous place, asthetically.
    Also, slamming nerds again? Do we even live in a world where those words do not have some positive affinity towards them? Come on people…come on.
    Sharky D, geeks are anything if not loyal to their ladies. Like, Secret Service loyal.

  30. bicycle bob says:

    the person who told u it was cool and sounds great to post in ebonics was off his rocker. i appreciate u trying to fill the chris rock void and all.

  31. JW says:

    Bob, do you just want to call me the derogatory terms for “homosexual African-American” or what? That right there, that’s messed up. It does play into my continuing feelings and sentiments towards the Sharks of this blog.
    No personal attacks bob. Yet, you are filling the void of the really annoying teenager that has an inability to type simple three letter words. Notice, how, that does not insult 12 percent of the population of the United States.
    You silly, silly, boy.

  32. bicycle bob says:

    since when does ebonics equal dumb black guy? maybe in ur bizarro world. join the real world, jw. we won’t bite.

  33. JW says:

    and, in the REAL WORLD, do people have a hard time spelling three/four-letter words or using capitalization? If you constitute the REAL WORLD, then the BIZARRO WORLD surely looks more appealling.

  34. JW says:

    Oh yeah. Right now. Let us all pour a fo’ty for Scotty. May Gene Rodenberry be there to great him on the other side with the otherwordly equivalent of Orion Slave Girls!

  35. Bruce says:

    JW,
    Do you ever have anything nice to say or anything to contribute to the discussion besides bashing peoples spelling skills?
    Because, no offense, it is really getting tiresome.

  36. BluStealer says:

    Bruce,
    It’s no use. Just ignore him.

  37. LesterFreed says:

    Witty he ain’t.

  38. JW says:

    Bruce, do you ever have anything nice to say? If I remember correctly. You showed up here the first time, and started slamming kids who watched Transformers by calling them ‘nerds.’ I have plenty of nice to say, but do not front Bruce. Do not front. You are a SHARK. We all know the SHARKS are just one guy. One guy with a lot of time on his hand. And I will slam Bob’s writing style all day. Since, if you paid attention, he insulted mine and 12 percent of the population at the same time. Capice? We cool? Good.
    Now, look at you defending yourself with your woman character and your homophobe. Y’all the problem. I’m the solution. But Im too busy…dancin dancin dancin
    I’M A DANCIN MACHINEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
    Get back down!

  39. JW says:

    Not WITTY? NOT WITTY?
    Let me have 9 other characters, and we will have a witty duel!

  40. JMull1 says:

    Yeah! YOU TELL’EM JAY!

  41. AdamSessler says:

    How I got dragged into this. I have no clue. However, yeah, what that guy said.

  42. MorganWebb says:

    How you got dragged into this? Im get to be the ‘token’ female poster. Nothing distinguishing me from the other characters except the fact I have boobs. I feel so disenfranchised.

  43. Spider-Man says:

    I got to agree with Jay on one thing; my first movie did suck. Thank got that Raimi guy redeemed my character in the second film, or I would have had to sue somebody. Theoritically, Stan Lee suing Sony for money from my films, means I DID SUE SOMEBODY! SWEET MERCIFUL…spidey-sense tingling. Damn it. My two fake kids with Gwen Stacy are wrecking havoc, time to go.

  44. ReedRichard says:

    All of you who hated my film can kiss my stretchy ass! I GOT A SEQUEL! IN YOUR FACE ANG LEE!

  45. Unicron says:

    We got a problem here? Anybody? I eat worlds. So if we got a problem. Speak up now. Or your world is next.

  46. RandomGuy says:

    Just sitting here. You know. Sitting. Just a random guy. I loves kitty cats and Shasta Cream Soda. Yup. Just a random guy. I have no association with them other people.

  47. Number8 says:

    Yeah. Uh. I like dolphins.

  48. Number9 says:

    Yes. Dolphins are a fine aquatic animal. They are great singers as well.

  49. JW says:

    You see Sharks. We are all onto your game. IF you like being the borg, then Im sure I will like being the borg just as much.
    We could all get along probably. If you were just the one guy posting instead of the other 8.

  50. Panda Bear says:

    Yeah,
    This JW guy is an absolute joke. I could see if he was just a tiny teeny bit funny. But its like watching a Pauly Shore movie.

  51. Mark says:

    Do we really have to put up with this guys childish antics? The only movie this JW guy has commented on in the past 2 months has been his rave review of Fantastic Four. Doesn’t that say enough?

  52. jeffmcm says:

    JW, you’re fighting stupid with stupid.

  53. Angelus21 says:

    So, hes fighting himself? That’s really sad.

  54. joefitz84 says:

    At least he’ll win. Right? Well, I guess he could have a draw.

  55. jeffmcm says:

    JW, I don’t think he/they got it.

  56. bicycle bob says:

    jeff and jw are probably the same guy. both really have nothing to say.

  57. Terence D says:

    A nice way to completely ruin a good thread. When you aren’t the center of attention you have to go and try to ruin it for everyone else. I feel like I deal with a six yr old. Thank you, JW for doing that.

  58. jdouc says:

    Is that not what “bi” bob did by hating on JW’s on-topic post in the first place? You’d think based on everyone’s universal hatred towards JW that he’d started it.

  59. Lota says:

    just read there were peeps at Comic Con (was there a few years ago but not this year alas) selling pirate DVDs & a couple have been busted.
    It amazes me that at a heavily attended event by so industry people that Pirates would not expect to get caught! pretty risky dudes. and dumb as now the IRS will be looking into their receipt etc.

  60. Lota says:

    i meant i was AT comic con a few years ago…Lota doesn’t make, sell or buy Hot DVDs.

  61. Joe Leydon says:

    But has Lota ever APPEARED in a hot DVD? (Wink-wink, nudge-nudge, know what I mean?)

  62. Lota says:

    Hot=stolen Joe, relax. And Lota will not allow herself to be filmed ever. Only black and white photos and no autographs.

  63. Joe Leydon says:

    Lota: And in these photos, you’re wearing a clinging gown with your hair swept up, while crooning into a microphone? Wait, didn’t I see you at some jazz club with Art Pepper one evening?

  64. Lota says:

    Lota.Don’t.Sing.
    put the bottle down Joe and step away from the keyboard.

  65. Joe Leydon says:

    Lota: Sorry. I had this Lonette McKee fantasy thing going for a minute. No offense. (Or was it a Vonetta McGee thing? Hmmm. OK, Vonetta was in “Thomasine and Bushrod,” but Lonette was in “Sparkle,” right?)

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